My podcast guest this week is Gary Garcia — again.
This time we talk about Pastoral Transition from a unique perspective. I was Gary’s lead pastor for 25 years, then we transitioned to Gary being the lead pastor, while I stayed on the pastoral staff with him.
In this episode Gary and I talk about
- Why that happened
- How we did it
- How it’s been going since
Some key points about making a successful pastoral transition will include:
- We need to know God is calling us to do it, even if it’s outside our comfort zone.
- We must spend the necessary time to talk, think and pray about it. It’s better to do it well than do it fast.
- Each needs to support the other. The former lead pastor must truly let go of control, and the new pastor needs to honor the past without being intimidated by it.
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Veronica Beaver | KarlVaters.com
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Shelley Vaters | KarlVaters.com
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Karl Vaters produces resources for Helping Small Churches Thrive at KarlVaters.com.
He's the author of five books on church leadership, including his newest, De-Sizing the Church: How Church Growth Became a Science, Then an Obsession, and What's Next. His other books include The Grasshopper Myth and Small Church Essentials.
Karl also hosts a bi-weekly podcast, The Church Lobby: Conversations on Faith & Ministry, featuring in-depth interviews about topics that concern pastors, especially those who minister in a small church context. He has served in small-church ministry for over 40 years, so he speaks and writes from decades of hands-on pastoral experience.
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