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Pastoral Longevity and Ministry Partnership, with Gary Garcia (Podcast Ep 016)
Karl Vaters interviews Gary Garcia about their 29-year-long ministry partnership in the same church, including the benefits and challenges of longevity.

Intentional Interim Pastors, with Tom Harris (Podcast Ep 015)
Karl Vaters interviews Tom Harris about the importance of interim pastorates, including how an intentional interim can help prepare a church to hit the ground running when they call a new pastor.

9 Reasons Some Pastors Overstay Their Calling
In general, longer pastoral stays are better than a series of short ones. But even good pastors can stay too long. Here are some reasons why.

The Value Of Long-Term Pastorates, with Rich Brown (Podcast Ep 014)
Karl Vaters interviews Rich Brown about why long-term pastorates are good for the church, the pastor, the pastor’s family, and for the community we’re called to reach.

We Can’t Predict The Crowd, So Let’s Do Good Ministry
If you do good ministry and don’t see numerical increase, at least you can rest easy knowing you did the right thing.

Hitting A Church Growth Barrier? Getting Bigger Isn’t Your Only Option
Should pastors adjust our leadership style to accommodate a larger congregation? Or is there a way to allow for and encourage growth that won’t require such a radical shift?

Small Churches In Denominational Leadership, with Matt Henslee (Podcast Ep 013)
Karl Vaters interviews Matt Henslee about his recent appointment to regional and national leadership in the SBC and the importance of having small church representation in denominational leadership.

Why You Need A Small Church Pastor On Your Church Conference Leadership Team (4 Benefits)
Every church leadership organization needs to have at least one permanent seat at the table for someone who is currently serving in a small church for the long haul.

When Church Growth Feels Like MLM (A Request From The Rest Of Us)
When telling us about the results of your church growth principles, don’t just promote the success stories, tell us the averages.
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Karl Vaters produces resources for Helping Small Churches Thrive at KarlVaters.com.
He's the author of five books on church leadership, including his newest, De-Sizing the Church: How Church Growth Became a Science, Then an Obsession, and What's Next. His other books include The Grasshopper Myth and Small Church Essentials.
Karl also hosts a bi-weekly podcast, The Church Lobby: Conversations on Faith & Ministry, featuring in-depth interviews about topics that concern pastors, especially those who minister in a small church context. He has served in small-church ministry for over 40 years, so he speaks and writes from decades of hands-on pastoral experience.
You can follow Karl on Facebook, Instagram, X, YouTube, and LinkedIn, or Contact Karl to inquire about speaking, writing, and consultation.
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