Yes, you read that title right. This is the last episode.
But no, we aren’t stopping the podcast. In January, we’re changing the name.
In this special bonus episode, I have no guests. Instead, I talk about . . .
- The three big reasons we’re changing the name
- What the new direction will look like
- What the new name of the podcast will be
So What's The New Name?
Here’s a sneak peek at the name and logo.
The Church Lobby: Conversations on Faith & Ministry!
This will let us keep the original small-church intent of the podcast, while opening our subject matter to a broader range of topics and audiences.
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Credits
Producer
Veronica Beaver | Veronica@KarlVaters.com
Editor
Phil Vaters | Phil@KarlVaters.com
Music
Composed and performed by Jack Wilkins | JackWilkinsMusic.com
Logo
by Solomon Joy
Correspondence
Shelley Vaters | Shelley@KarlVaters.com

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Author
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Karl Vaters produces resources for Helping Small Churches Thrive at KarlVaters.com.
He's the author of five books on church leadership, including his newest, De-Sizing the Church: How Church Growth Became a Science, Then an Obsession, and What's Next. His other books include The Grasshopper Myth and Small Church Essentials.
Karl also hosts a bi-weekly podcast, The Church Lobby: Conversations on Faith & Ministry, featuring in-depth interviews about topics that concern pastors, especially those who minister in a small church context. He has served in small-church ministry for over 40 years, so he speaks and writes from decades of hands-on pastoral experience.
You can follow Karl on Facebook, Instagram, X, YouTube, and LinkedIn, or Contact Karl to inquire about speaking, writing, and consultation.
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