In this episode I interview Erik Reed, a pastor in Nashville TN.
This conversation is, surprisingly, based on a Twitter thread Erik wrote about how excellence in smaller churches looks different than it does in bigger churches.
Erik and I talk about:
- The dangers of small churches trying to imitate larger churches
- The attractiveness of authenticity
- The importance of investing our time and resources wisely
- Examples of what small-church excellence actually looks like
Instead of pushing for the technical “wow” factor, we need to remember that people who come to a smaller church are looking for us to do the small, relational things well, so that’s where we should put our energy.
Links from this Episode
- Erik Reed on Twitter: @ErikReed
- Read Erik Reed’s Twitter Thread on Small Church Excellence
- Read it here if you’re not on Twitter
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Author
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Karl produces resources for Helping Small Churches Thrive at KarlVaters.com.
He's the author of five books on church leadership, including his newest, De-Sizing the Church: How Church Growth Became a Science, Then an Obsession, and What's Next. His other books include The Grasshopper Myth and Small Church Essentials.
Karl also hosts a bi-weekly podcast,The Church Lobby: Conversations on Faith & Ministry, featuring in-depth interviews about topics that concern pastors, especially those who minister in a small church context.
Karl has served in small-church ministry for over 40 years, so he speaks and writes from decades of hands-on pastoral experience. He and his wife, Shelley have three children and two grandkids.