Church Metrics that Really Matter, with Craig T. Owens (Ep 043)

Not only does pastoring a small church correspond with Shepherd Leadership, but the smaller size helps some aspects become even more doable.

In this episode I interview Craig T. Owens, a pastor, author, co-host of the podcast “The Craig and Greg Show”, and a blogger at

Craig and I talk about the subjects addressed in his recent book, Shepherd Leadership: The Metrics that Really Matter.

Some of the important subjects include:

  • Using biblical metrics for pastoral ministry
  • The tendency to lead based in confidence or humility
  • The essential nature of sabbath in a life of ministry
  • The relationship of wisdom to shepherding
  • The importance of overcoming guilt as a motivator for decisions in ministry

There’s also an important undercurrent throughout the episode about putting our servanthood into action first, knowing that only then will a servant’s heart follow.

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