Church Metrics that Really Matter, with Craig T. Owens (Ep 043)

Not only does pastoring a small church correspond with Shepherd Leadership, but the smaller size helps some aspects become even more doable.

by Karl Vaters

In this episode I interview Craig T. Owens, a pastor, author, co-host of the podcast “The Craig and Greg Show”, and a blogger at CraigTOwens.com.

Craig and I talk about the subjects addressed in his recent book, Shepherd Leadership: The Metrics that Really Matter.

Some of the important subjects include:

Using biblical metrics for pastoral ministry
The tendency to lead based in confidence or humility
The essential nature of sabbath in a life of ministry
The relationship of wisdom to shepherding
The importance of overcoming guilt as a motivator for decisions in ministry

There’s also an important undercurrent throughout the episode about putting our servanthood into action first, knowing that only then will a servant’s heart follow.

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Phil Vaters | [email protected]

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Composed and performed by Jack Wilkins | JackWilkinsMusic.com

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Karl Vaters

Karl Vaters produces resources for Helping Small Churches Thrive at KarlVaters.com.
He's the author of five books on church leadership, including his newest, De-Sizing the Church: How Church Growth Became a Science, Then an Obsession, and What's Next. His other books include The Grasshopper Myth and Small Church Essentials.
Karl also hosts a bi-weekly podcast, The Church Lobby: Conversations on Faith & Ministry, featuring in-depth interviews about topics that concern pastors, especially those who minister in a small church context. He has served in small-church ministry for over 40 years, so he speaks and writes from decades of hands-on pastoral experience.
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