“If we are to see a recovery of trust and integrity, it will demand a radical reorientation in how we form leaders, how we imagine success, and how we live our lives before God and one another.”
That’s a quote from Chuck DeGroat’s new book, Who You’re Becoming: The Slow and Courageous Work of Cultivating Character in a Narcissistic Age.
I talked with Chuck about how to identify some better ways to approach the concepts of success and character development. This is essential, but slow work, especially in an age that often pushes back against it.
Chuck is professor of pastoral care and Christian spirituality at Western Theological Seminary. He has served as a pastor, has founded two church-based counseling centers, and is the author of several books.
Links
- Chuck’s X post about pastoral search requirements
- ChuckDeGroat.net
- Who You’re Becoming: The Slow and Courageous Work of Cultivating Character in a Narcissistic Age
- When Narcissism Comes to Church: Healing Your Community From Emotional and Spiritual Abuse
- The Worst Scandal I’ve Seen in 30 Years (from Chuck’s Substack)
Bonus Content
Four Conditions for a Sacred Ripening, with Chuck DeGroat
Chuck DeGroat defines “ripening” as the slow, consistent work of Christian maturation. There are four key biblical conditions that must be met for this to be achieved, and in this short subscribers-only bonus material, Church walks us through them:
- Safety
- Eldering
- Community
- A Sacred Story
This is all from Chuck’s recent book, Who You’re Becoming: The Slow and Courageous Work of Cultivating Character in a Narcissistic Age.
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Karl Vaters produces resources for Helping Small Churches Thrive at KarlVaters.com.He's the author of five books on church leadership, including his newest, De-Sizing the Church: How Church Growth Became a Science, Then an Obsession, and What's Next. His other books include The Grasshopper Myth and Small Church Essentials.
Karl also hosts a bi-weekly podcast, The Church Lobby: Conversations on Faith & Ministry, featuring in-depth interviews about topics that concern pastors, especially those who minister in a small church context. He has served in small-church ministry for over 40 years, so he speaks and writes from decades of hands-on pastoral experience.
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