This is such a good and important interview with Alan Briggs, a pastor, the author of Staying is the New Going, the host of the Right Side Up Leadership podcast and StayForth.com.
Alan and I talk about why geography matters in church leadership. Especially in an increasingly-mobile and increasingly-electronic world, staying planted where God put you is more important than ever for effective, incarnational ministry.
Staying in a church long-term may have its challenges, but they are far outweighed by their advantages – for the church, the pastors, the pastor’s family, and the community they’re called to serve.
Some important topics we cover include:
- Why are American pastors especially transient, and what problems does this cause?
- What does it mean to choose to be a local even if you aren’t a native?
- The importance of “faithful presence”
- Why sabbaticals matter, and why doing them with a plan is essential
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Veronica Beaver | Veronica@KarlVaters.com
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Phil Vaters | Phil@KarlVaters.com
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Shelley Vaters | Shelley@KarlVaters.com
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Author
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Karl produces resources for Helping Small Churches Thrive at KarlVaters.com.
He's the author of four books on church leadership. His fifth book, De-Sizing the Church: How Church Growth Became a Science, Then an Obsession, and What's Next, releases on April 2, 2024.
He also hosts a bi-weekly podcast,The Church Lobby: Conversations on Faith & Ministry. Episodes feature in-depth interviews about the topics that concern pastors, especially those who minister in a small church context.
Karl has served in small-church ministry for over 40 years, so he speaks and writes from decades of hands-on pastoral experience. He and his wife, Shelley have three children and two grandkids.