In this episode I interview Michael Clary about the dangers of what he calls Elitist Christianity.
This conversation was inspired by a Twitter thread Michael wrote in which he confessed to an arrogant attitude he had developed as a young, successful church planter. Michael found himself looking down on pastors and Christians who hadn’t had his training, even though they were the people whose shoulders he was standing on.
His vulnerability, confession, and repentance hold great lessons for all of us.
Links from this Episode
- Michael Clary on Twitter: @DMichaelClary
- Read Michael Clary’s Twitter Thread on Elitist Christianity
- Read it here if you’re not on Twitter
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Veronica Beaver | Veronica@KarlVaters.com
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Phil Vaters | Phil@KarlVaters.com
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Shelley Vaters | Shelley@KarlVaters.com
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Author
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Karl produces resources for Helping Small Churches Thrive at KarlVaters.com.
He's the author of four books on church leadership. His fifth book, De-Sizing the Church: How Church Growth Became a Science, Then an Obsession, and What's Next, releases on April 2, 2024.
He also hosts a bi-weekly podcast,The Church Lobby: Conversations on Faith & Ministry. Episodes feature in-depth interviews about the topics that concern pastors, especially those who minister in a small church context.
Karl has served in small-church ministry for over 40 years, so he speaks and writes from decades of hands-on pastoral experience. He and his wife, Shelley have three children and two grandkids.