As we come to the end of our ten-part series based on De-sizing the Church, here are portions of some conversations I’ve had with five church leaders from various backgrounds about their first reactions to reading the book.
- Drew Dyck (author and editor) talks about the dangers of Christian celebrity.
- Peyton Jones (author and church planter) discusses how churches operating under the church growth paradigm are more likely to be in decline than growth.
- Greg Atkinson (author and church consultant) highlights the importance of broadening our understanding of church size and health.
- Stan Givens (pastor) comments on the importance of churches working together, and the essential role of discipleship.
- Sean Nemecek (author and soul care coach) looks at the high rates of burnout due to chasing numbers, and digs into the revivalist history of the Great Awakenings.
Links from this Episode
- De-sizing the Church: How Church Growth Became a Science, Then an Obsession, and What’s Next
- Church Plantology
- The Weary Leaders Guide to Burnout
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