We have an unhealthy relationship with bigness in the church. Especially in the American church. And it’s killing us. The rate of church closures, departing members, and pastoral burnout is growing exponentially.
This is the first episode of a series of podcasts based on my new book, De-Sizing the Church: How Church Growth Became a Science, Then an Obsession, and What’s Next. I talk about how we became so obsessed with bigness in the church, why it’s dangerous, and what we can do to change course.
Look for upcoming De-sizing the Church episodes in which I interview Katelyn Beaty, Scot McKnight, Winn Collier, and others.
De-Sizing the Church is now available wherever you buy books, either electronically or in print. If you’ve read the book and you’d like me to speak to your group about the issues I raise in it, reach out here.
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Veronica Beaver | [email protected]
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Phil Vaters | [email protected]
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Composed and performed by Jack Wilkins | JackWilkinsMusic.com
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Shelley Vaters | Shelley@KarlVaters.com
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Karl Vaters produces resources for Helping Small Churches Thrive at KarlVaters.com.
He's the author of five books on church leadership, including his newest, De-Sizing the Church: How Church Growth Became a Science, Then an Obsession, and What's Next. His other books include The Grasshopper Myth and Small Church Essentials.
Karl also hosts a bi-weekly podcast, The Church Lobby: Conversations on Faith & Ministry, featuring in-depth interviews about topics that concern pastors, especially those who minister in a small church context. He has served in small-church ministry for over 40 years, so he speaks and writes from decades of hands-on pastoral experience.
You can follow Karl on Facebook, Instagram, X, YouTube, and LinkedIn, or Contact Karl to inquire about speaking, writing, and consultation.
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