“Since serving on a church board, do you feel your spiritual life has declined?” In a recent survey, 80 percent of respondents answered “yes” to that question. Why is this happening, and what can be done about it?
In this episode, I talk with Dave Beckwith about how to turn that around, including:
- How our current corporate style of board meetings isn’t just unbiblical, it’s causing great harm to boards, pastors and the churches they serve
- How to shift to a more biblical model
- How to choose church leaders in a more biblical way
- Advice about the best board sizes and term limits
Bonus Chat
When God Uses a Drop In Numbers to Redirect Your Efforts, with Dave Beckwith
Dave Beckwith and I talk about issues related to church size, based on a story that Dave tells in his book, and that I (Karl) cite in my new book, De-sizing the Church (coming April 2, 2024). Specifically we ask, what happens when a drop in attendance numbers isn’t loss, but simply a redirection?
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Authors
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Dave Beckwith is the Western US Director for Volunteers with Standing Stone Ministry, a ministry of shepherding the shepherds. He's also senior pastor emeritus for Woodbridge Church in Irvine, California.
He's the author of God Meetings: An Awakening in the Board Room (with Joanne Beckwith), I Love the World, It's People I Can't Stand: Jonah's Journey of Brokenness and Yours, and Your Winning Edge: God's Power Perfected in Weakness.
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Karl Vaters produces resources for Helping Small Churches Thrive at KarlVaters.com.
He's the author of five books on church leadership, including his newest, De-Sizing the Church: How Church Growth Became a Science, Then an Obsession, and What's Next. His other books include The Grasshopper Myth and Small Church Essentials.
Karl also hosts a bi-weekly podcast, The Church Lobby: Conversations on Faith & Ministry, featuring in-depth interviews about topics that concern pastors, especially those who minister in a small church context. He has served in small-church ministry for over 40 years, so he speaks and writes from decades of hands-on pastoral experience.
You can follow Karl on Facebook, Instagram, X, YouTube, and LinkedIn, or Contact Karl to inquire about speaking, writing, and consultation.
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