Fame and celebrity have many downsides. But Daniel Darling brings a balanced approach to this subject by reminding us that fame is also what allows a good message to get through the clutter.
In this episode, I talk with Dan about this Tweet that he wrote expressing appreciation for the fame of Tim Keller.
We often (rightly) critique a relentless pursuit of “platform.” But I’m glad there have been faithful Christians with a wide audience because they’ve made their way to me. If Keller isn’t published by a mainstream publisher, I don’t get to read his works. And I think this about so many other men and women whose words have helped to shape me. If they were not published in books, or on Christian radio, or in a podcast, or in a magazine article, I’d never would have had access to their wisdom. There are so many ways fame can be perverted and can destroy and can be tribal. But there are also so many ways a wide audience can be used for God’s glory.
Daniel Darling Tweet from May 20, 2023
As that Tweet shows us, it was Tim Keller’s platform and the celebrity status it gave him that allowed Dan and so many others to be introduced to Keller’s teachings. Dan’s perspective on the value of having a platform is an important balance to our conversations about the dangers of celebrity.
Links from this Episode
- Daniel Darling Tweet from May 20, 2023
- DanielDarling.com
- Daniel Darling’s newsletter
- Daniel Darling books
- De-sizing the Church: How Church Growth Became a Science, Then an Obsession, and What’s Next
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