In this episode I interview Dale Sellers of the 95 Network, about some of the important issues facing small churches as we come out of the pandemic and look ahead to 5-10 years of fallout, including:
- The need for rest and soul care for pastors
- Why the expected wave of pastoral resignations hasn’t happened
- What to do instead of chasing absent members
- The importance of accurately defining your congregation’s current reality
Links from this Episode
- 95 Network
- Stalled: Hope and Help for Pastors Who Thought They’d Be There by Now
- The New Very Large Church
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Veronica Beaver | [email protected]
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Phil Vaters | [email protected]
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by Solomon Joy
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Shelley Vaters | Shelley@KarlVaters.com
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Karl Vaters produces resources for Helping Small Churches Thrive at KarlVaters.com.
He's the author of five books on church leadership, including his newest, De-Sizing the Church: How Church Growth Became a Science, Then an Obsession, and What's Next. His other books include The Grasshopper Myth and Small Church Essentials.
Karl also hosts a bi-weekly podcast, The Church Lobby: Conversations on Faith & Ministry, featuring in-depth interviews about topics that concern pastors, especially those who minister in a small church context. He has served in small-church ministry for over 40 years, so he speaks and writes from decades of hands-on pastoral experience.
You can follow Karl on Facebook, Instagram, X, YouTube, and LinkedIn, or Contact Karl to inquire about speaking, writing, and consultation.
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Dale Sellers is the Executive Director of the 95Network, a ministry that helps the 95% of American churches that have fewer than 500 attendees. He's also the host of the 95Podcast, the founder of Soul Care Essentials, and the author of Stalled: Hope and Help for Pastors Who Thought They'd Be There By Now.
You can follow Dale on Instagram, Facebook, or X.
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