A fascinating, wide-ranging interview with Bob Smietana, a columnist for Religion News Service, and the author of Reorganized Religion: The Reshaping of the American Church and Why it Matters.
Bob and I discuss some of the unintended consequences of the Church Growth Movement from his unique vantage point. We also delve into the dangers of bigness and what we can do about it.
Then we discuss Smietana’s fascinating article, “There’s a Reason Every Hit Worship Song Sounds the Same,” and what it says about the current church culture.
Links from this Episode
- Reorganized Religion: The Reshaping of the American Church and Why it Matters
- Religion News Service
- There’s a Reason Every Hit Worship Song Sounds the Same
- De-sizing the Church: How Church Growth Became a Science, Then an Obsession, and What’s Next
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Karl Vaters produces resources for Helping Small Churches Thrive at KarlVaters.com.
He's the author of five books on church leadership, including his newest, De-Sizing the Church: How Church Growth Became a Science, Then an Obsession, and What's Next. His other books include The Grasshopper Myth and Small Church Essentials.
Karl also hosts a bi-weekly podcast, The Church Lobby: Conversations on Faith & Ministry, featuring in-depth interviews about topics that concern pastors, especially those who minister in a small church context. He has served in small-church ministry for over 40 years, so he speaks and writes from decades of hands-on pastoral experience.
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