Thom Rainer and Lawrence Wilson Interview Karl Vaters About Small Churches

Recently, I was interviewed about small churches by two great ministries.

1. The Thom Rainer Leadership Podcast #338

Thom Rainer, Jonathan Howe and I talk about Five Big Problems For Small Churches.

2. The Encouraging Pastors Blog

In Your Church Is Big Enough: Karl Vaters Talks Small Church Health, Lawrence W. Wilson and I talk about pastoral longevity in the small church, what does a great small church look like? and more.

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